ABRIENDO GAME, ABRIENDO WORLDS   Blog of Fernando Flowers

He is incredible and that is approved a weight for the Transantiago without full disclosure with respect to:
1) Its use: what the plan? in what one is going to spend the silver?
2) The present state of the things,
3) History from how it was arrived up to here.
If that happens, it speaks bad of the political system indicates clearly that the system does not work and no longer we can trust.
If one is of opposition, the Transantiago is a great stupidity that has made him damage to the country. If one voted by the Agreement, in addition it is a treason: to treat without responsibility that directly touches the life of People, that that the Agreement always has said to defend and to represent.
And it seems to me that Ricardo Lagos has not become position of this problem, that I think badly was generated because it wanted that it saw the light before the elections (like the Center of Justice).
Kind
Juan Jose Sáenz

It is a clear fact that the system of known transport as Transantiago had important faults of design, contracts, beginning, etc. Nevertheless to continue insisting on
a) to return to put the system old (well-known like yellow micros)
b) to throw to the Minister Cortazar (who is unique the able one to fix this)
c) the system has not improves some (even though that is evident that yes)
It only shows on the of the opposition an eagerness to obtain dividends (of there the insistence in individualizing to Lagos) This is indeed the type of things of which the citizens we are tired.
It clear that a system of decent transport for Santiago subsidy of the State. What corresponds is to row all together ones to help to solve this great problem that the quality of life of million people

About Problem generated by platas to give to the way to see the great problem it the incapacity of the Government To say: We felt It, the design and the implementation of this system was a failure, we needed a new system transport and new resources but this we are going never it to listen.  Then the government does not want to recognize he made it bad I do not see what is the problem, is much more honest) seguira spending resources without clarifying the used numbers, without presenting/displaying before the country a new design of transport that will happen if the ideas of Minister Cortazar to improve the system are not most and estan again mistaken? one imagines if a Transantiago 2,0 this badly designed (permitanos to have doubts of the capacities, since before the facts less than we can have are doubts of the capacities of the members of the government) so far the problem again is not the (luckily and thanks to copper), if not as it is used, and it is east point the one that must be discussed.
Greetings
Rodrigo

The published thing in the page of the Senate shows several aspects:
1. - The Transantiago implies investments at several levels of implementation. Among them the one of road infrastructure.
2. - The road infrastructure is a long term investment reason why it is not possible to be hoped to gain silver and to have surplus immediately.
3. - The improvement of the road infrastructure is because of the lack of historical investment on subject. It implies that we load with this cost caused by the little preoccupation of previous administrations on the subject. this investment is not complete responsibility of the Transantiago recovering all, but it is necessary to assume a cost like society of the bad thing that the infrastructure.
4. - At moment that are works that extend the Transantiago like the adjustment of routes that are not of use of the buses, the complete cost to the project would not be due to impute. The information does not give many details, but by the sight there a problem of I pay for. This is not allowing to really see what the investment costs, and therefore how much really it loses it wins.
5. - Once assumed these 2 subjects, there is a social cost that to pay and that apparently the investment extends the Transantiago, we cannot hope that silver is not lost and deny the resources to him.
6. - One is due to evaluate the road recovery and to separate the costs other people's to the specific implementation of the system and just to wait for gains to the medium or long term there.
7. - A project cannot be killed that is unquestionably better than what there was before in Chile. That would only be something of political character. It seems illogical to think to me how a system of transports organized cannot work in Chile, when these systems work well in so many countries of the world, in different modalities.
Works Economy Gonzalo Grebe

It known by all that the Transantiago had and continues having a series of falencias with regard to the times of delay, distribution of the routes and a demand of very greater transport to the existing supply of machines in the streets. Nevertheless, we also must be objectives as far as some things:
- The system yellow micros was not a very efficient system that we say, he was than rotten more. Departure highly polluting era, generated much congestion and was little civilized, the micreros for example did not stop the students him and often they garabatearon me to demand that they the student passage to me who corresponded to me.
- People now pay less by the passage with the system of transfers, which evidently is good for the pocket of the santiaguinos.
- Since she assumed Cortázar, the system has improved a pile, sees seriousness and like politician it has had much endorsement of people, safe by the right that appealing to opportunism has been dedicated to appear at the cost of the committed errors.
Given the enormous that owns people to have system of transport, it is strictly to also inject resources as rapidly as possible, because will be in benefit not only of the Santiaguinos, but for the regions that will also be seen with the injection of resources. As you Senator in a seminary: There are that appear in the life and other that are invented the Transantiago, but I believe that I was necessary to the step and to try to implement a new system of public transport that really is worthy for the people, for it an injection is needed resources by the good of the city and the country.
Brave Rodrigo.

The delivery of so numerous resources must be associate a redesign of Transantiago and not to the introduction of partial improvements. Although it built-in improvements have implied certain advance, these seem to have arrived at their limit and they do not solve the basic problem.
The new design must satisfy what they require the clients (fleeting) and not to a mere theoretical exercise, whose primary targets are aspects such as to diminish the amount bus, to eliminate the payments with and others of similar nature. Although these concepts can be beneficial, they do not correspond to the central objective of a system of transports.
In another matter: has to do subsidy the transport of the regions with the Transantiago? what studies guarantee these subsidies? Corresponds the same subsidy to the regions?
Each thing in own merit would have be analyzed not to fall in populismos.
H. Figueroa

In May of 2007 Mercury published the following letter to me I reproduce (it completely and my commentary goes in the end):
In three month and a half of operation, the Transantiago obtained:
1. In social thing:
To humiliate to million santiaguinos and visitors; to generate disregard towards the other regions of the country; to turn aside the attention of Customs officers of its main responsibility; to give reason manifestations with its consequent destructions; to facilitate illicit sexual conducts against women; to increase the fear to be transported; to increase the robbery to passers-by and motorists; to order a little the traffic of the city; to make lax brings back to consciousness of the evasores of the payment; to do that each Chilean, besides soccer, religion and economy, is expert in public transport.
2. In the politician:
To resign ministers and other civil servants; to face Government industralists; to cause that President gives to excuses on the evil performance the others; to unite to the opposition its critics to the Government; to separate to the Agreement with respect to its solutions; to know the intentions estatizantes of some personages public; to make work to the Congress in several associate projects of law; to make to go down the indices of citizen support to the President; to put in risk the continuity of the Agreement in the Government; to increase the critics to the previous government.
3. In the economic thing:
To ruin the network on watch of previous urban transport; to take the bankruptcy on the brink of madness to several industralists of the to the costs of operation of the Meter, to the fiscal that are of all the Chileans; to increase the fiscal budget of the regions; to reduce the productivity of the companies; to improve the income of the taxi drivers; to increase the real cost of transfer of the users; to increase the sale of used cars.
What has not obtained in these three month and a half?
a. To transport to million Chileans in safe and comfortable form.
b. To reduce the indices environmental contamination.
c. To improve the image of the country before the world.
d. To reduce the pride of the governors with respect to its decisions.
In following the cronogram of the minister, we will how east balance has modified.
Up to here the letter. They have spent 15 months since then and would be necessary to add the millionaire amount of resources that - in these months it been necessary to inject. I believe that there is to know how to make the loss or, in Mexican saying not to continue throwing good money to him to the bad one.

Please, cannot be rendered to cover the sun a finger. To support with your vote the financing of the Transancrificio is to pay so that it follows all equal. Ever since east system began changed my life and of many santiaguinos inhabitants for evil and very badly. I must myself 70 minutes before and arrive house 70 minutes later conrespecto at the previous system (before they were 85). Perhaps for some people it is less time, but with only made increase to 1 minute the period of and that this affects 85% of people, he is already bad the system. No longer there is case, he is irreversible and sebe not to be financed so that the change comes, you when you vote does not raise the finger to cover the sun, please the request.

Running the risk of repeating obviedades (one never knows if in this subject have been many stupid or too many alive ones), it would want to take to the subject an one step back. You imagine if freeway 68 be designed for peak pre-Week Santa or pre-18 of September.
What has to do? Several million santiaguinos leaving all 7 and 8 A.M. in morning and returning apatotados between 18 and 19 hours in afternoon are due to design for rush hour?
Any country for 20 years it has implementing political of flex-Time, where all are sticks in it, we say, between 11 A.M. and 15PM and soon each to its completes the legal schedule.
If they flatten peaks, the low maximum demand and the resource (little) reach (too elementary, I must be speaking stupidities.)
Two subjects more: the French say to cherchez femme What such cherchez l'argent? (as I said too many alive ones to who has benefitted all this scandal)
Finally: that the companies (more than now), have the legal obligation to provide mobilization by unique routes the company, at the expense taxes. .con contribution of the workers.
Ah! , and I YES use the Transantiago (too many guerrillas of coffee)

The because interests much to me I occupy 3 to the day the Transantiago. I recognize that there have been improvements, but are insufficient, coverall thinking about the atochamientos in pic of afternoon.
Of the system I prefer not to speak, was terrible, but it promised much to us, as much as it I remain whereupon as project is better, like final idea, because their design and implementation were bad.
Today I hope that resources do not take off to him and cause more traumas to the city, I believe that on certain normality it is possible to be constructed the improvements that is needed, not thus on the base of the collapse and public drama.
Finally yesterday they implemented a measurement hoped long ago, to lower the micro ones sinverguenzas that they do not pay. Before that new hope, I ask the gentlemen senators who defend with force the interests of the users, not going deep in the drama, but making exigencies to the government.
Thanks for this space,
Greetings!

Reading impressions the other panelistas, it is that it is varied. But, as as they say that there is to approve or not them platas. In my fodder that no. Already to spent a thousand of million weights that could well be used in other social but tangible and sensible projects. The subject of congestion in the yellow micros is certain, but this was only in parts of Santiago, specifically tree-lined avenue and Italy In the other places it was just as now.
Before he was a habitual user of the collective locomotion, now I implement myself, removes the car from house and I only mobilize myself in him. He is innumano to enter the line 1 is impossible to even raise in hours nonend. The micros (nonyellow according to some of are the same but guinea fowl. the good thing is that the drivers do not by passengers and they do not add with they kill so that them or they assault.
In the old system, enmeshes of routes was the 100% better than existing one, but the people of perisferias are but harmed, since those that vivian near great avenues or the center of stgo, it is totally better.
Before thinking that to approve, dense a return to It Mirror and tries to take locomotion to 7 a.m., or in my new house (the hug of maipu), the same. It is IMPOSSIBLE. if 30 nondelays minimal min, until subirte to to which the door pauses and perhaps abra.
Thanks, all the senators would have to do the same. To request the opinion of people. Since traveling only in own that wearing down does not feel.

Considered:
First that nothing only had here to an opinion those users of the system of I publish, and nonopinólogos based on news articles and amarillistas politicians.
Secondly: The Transantiago system of the 10 of February does not have ANYTHING to do the system nowadays this in the street. Those that says that there is to hurl the system and to do they have risen it never a micro ones again.
Third With the micros amariilas + meter delayed 1 hour to me and 15 from my house to the work and it cost $840 to Today I am delayed 45 minutes in micro + meter and it leaves $420 to me.
Conclusion: Even though I believe that it is much do, Transantiago today works very well if it is compared with old system yellow buses. It is a nonsense that has political aims insisting whereupon the santiaguinos we are ourselves humiliated day day with this system of transport. Lie! The machines are worthy, the suitable treatment, the consucción. The only problem is that the micros go full (but please, if we are speaking of a system of massive public transport) but much less full that with the old yellow micros. That if that was a humiliating form to travel! In the old system it was bread of day to go, literlmente, hanging supported in a single foot from the and resando so that another micro ones did not do a fine one to you and would hurl to you with the micro ones in march.
On the other hand it is an excellent opportunity correct an unjust distribution of resources incorporating to the regions in the project.
Mr. Senador: DIGA S.A. project of subsidy of the public Transport.

The Transantiago a technical problem, reason why correct allocation of the resources like any project of Engineering is only due detect; that is to say, buses, whichever routes, speeds to fulfill the demand, the suitable routes to obtain the speeds average, the location of the moving bodies in real time and the of the buses of way to optimize the speeds and to diminish the transfers. This gigantic matrix cannot be modeled and therefore he is expectable that the operators manage or tend to obtain the optimal ones by subsequent approaches; that is to say, test and error.
The then actors would have then to decide basic aspects the operation and jointly to put themselves to work to solve the problems one by one, but on basic agreements. A blotch is not expectable then and counts new, since I consider that the Transantiago or passed the point of no return and not it could, given the resources or invested, to try other solutions that move away of the lineamientos basic.
The subject not too complicated and as it said somebody way is not like sending a Chilean to Mars, therefore we hoped that the political actors and public agree themselves in the basic aspects to solve they make and them fulfill.

Thank you very much, have this dear space Fernando. Fernando, it is going to be something complex to define to I complete will be many sectors pressing, showing reasons, for which they must inclinarte, I know that at end the day you have demonstrated that you have independence your criterion, and to your it brings back to consciousness and reason you by virtue one or the other alternative. Dear Fernando, although Minister Cortazar, has many good intensities and a capacity that nobody knows, fodder that this immersed one in surroundings in which the faults are clear, in that sense fodder that the Minister is trying to correct a cancer with Antibiotics, although the associate symptoms work to diminish the pain sometimes, does not have sense to continue putting grazes Dental in the Infected tooth, what it is really needed it is to make a treatment Conduit. there are many structural faults that were not only solved putting Money. have been able to talk with Academics of my University, that the problem is Systemic, fault Logistic of embergaduras, that at the end of the day he only has by objective to satisfy certain levels on watch fixed by the same authority, without considering to the user the film star of the VALUE, that he has or not that to have the system of Transport, is that user who at the end of the day to duer and lies down to me with a strange sensation. He is not in agreement. an evil design of Routes, of Theory of Tails, a terrible handling in the relations with the Workers of the Transantiago, where it exists but that hope, Distrust. All the Plan that I have been able to glimpse of Minister Honorable Cortazar, this fixed to diminish the problems, Not thus to make a Re-engineering Complete of the Situation. Today fodder that is needed to do that. he is more Fernando, is known who when He considers to make a Re-engineering, must have successive stages that allow To back the same system, so that it is growing, a Neguentropia that allows to fight actively with these forces of Disorder which at the moment they persist. This will not be solved with Putting more bus either, with diminishing the rate of Evasion from 20% to 10%, less, with Installing GPS everywhere, when there is no a clear PLAN than it is wanted to do. the Government in that sense has been proud, in last instance I have seen an attitude, to yield in some things, only on the basis of obtaining a vote, that allows at the end of the to continue saying, WE CAN. but the truth is that the Government cannot, Nor PODRA, does not consider from long before, and when I say CONSIDERS, I do not only say in the meetings of Transport in the Chamber, but, showing one actidud that says. We are going to do this again, We can if we yearned for, conquering wills. but breadfruit has only conquered distrust. Your you create Fernando who the people really say at the end of the day, is necessary to vote so that the passages do not raise ? , personally I believe that what says, This seems Joke, estan debating if prices raise them or to not, but we followed equal of insatifechos. therefore the Center, has been put in a subject of Costs, and nonSatisfaction. Breadfruit deberia To be applied the Chain of Value of distinguished Professor Porter, to understand to the Final consumer like the KEY to determine if a system SERVES or must be rejected. sure some would think, Breadfruit does not serve much in this Industry as the Transport I publish, because there is no competition in this Industry like the Transport, encerrandonos simply to say: it is what there is, conformemonos. Nevertheless, your you know, that something can be done far better, something really of level very well. But for that not only it is needed To focus in down Throwing the Project of Minister Cortazar, but in Having a Plan, in which they are really considered to the involved ones, where it is worth the common sense and the voice of the actors. This forum is a dear beginning Fernando. I know that very you will be pressed, but was in your Place, beyond favoring to one or another position or of Your Region, you must vote because it gives more peace you, enfocarte in the Final Client, if you think that we will be satifechos really with this System, or in fact think that the so many Million Dollars, will be ultilizados perhaps in Infractructura, Processes, deficit, that in the end did not contribute or very little, for the Final Perception of the Client.
I wait for poderte given some elements dear Fernando
one completes reflection:
as in this case the voting frames in the emission of a Permanent Resource, that is say something that will remain in the time, the desición which you take must IF or IF, be directed to the Client or PERSON perhaps as your you wish to say, But not thinking about Putting the CUCKOO to him to these honorable people, with raising the passages, but with really making a system Worthy of Transports, where we pruned peacefully, direct to us To work to let grow to our Economy, To study, where we will be able to make reality our Dreams, and to return to House, to the Home, where we will be able, if we go well in the way, with greater facility to have one disposition to help, to contribute and to give the best thing than we have Our FAMILIES
if that not fulfill, MUST BE REJECTED SYSTEM
THAT IS THE CENTER!
attention(or attn)
Jorge Cross V.
your servant

The Transantiago subject is so hackneyed, but I want to pay attention to the simple thing.
1. - Badly it is implemented, does not serve for which it was created.
2. - Control does not exist, of times, fleets, payments.
3. - It was not the road for this system
It certain that it has improved very enormously, coverall the Subus line, worthy, hour buses acceptable, or, I believe that area, sectors, or communes must improve by, are places that are disaster, but the system in if he is not bad, bad is implemantado by some technicians.
What it simply seems to me unacceptable is, like this Transantiago to the inequality between the Chileans, the in $ 380 paid attention 16 months ago, when the liter of Diesel engine $ 410, today ellitro costs $ 710, follows $ 380, and in provinces, or in the neighborhood of Santiago, our passages have been increased according to the fuel rise, is certain that in compensation him resources to the provinces have been but we as usuary we do not see them, the rise definitively leave our pockets, and he is taking an important part to us of our pays, while in Santiago, they are continued by $ 380, I know clearly that if the system this not prstando the suitable service, is my didficil politicmente incorrect, mainly in year, to sincerar the value of the passage, but nosotrs. those of province, we must pay it of our pocket, simply SCANDALOUS, is enough that the urban passages cost the same $ 380 of to End Sands.
but with some conditions:
1. - That it fixed once and for all, within a certain term.
2. - that is of egalitarian with respect to the passages of the people of Province.
3. - That is transparent the tariff, that is but near alcosto real
4. - it is parcializado, in quotas based on the results.
Senator, follows thus, with uprightness and seriousness, congratulations!

He is unacceptable that is approved but bottoms for this bankrupt project. I believe that first that one is due to analyze is management of the Government and the Finaciero Administrator. The best form to finance it is that the ususarios cancel the return passage that at present this not becoming. That permitiria to save approximately the totality of the trips made by US$ 0,80 ($ 380) lessen enough the debt of monthly US$ 40.000.000 of deficit.
But it is impossible to improve if a good management does not exist since in the they are very few or almost has experience in administering a as it is east project of santiaguino transport.
It is very easy what for the Government through Cortazar, only without contributing absolutely NOTHING as far as MANAGEMENT talks about.
Greetings and Force Don Fernando. There many we trusted You

Dear Mr. Flores:
First: I believe that it is to have inescapable of present authorities to recognize that the system failed. If equal it is going to have a political cost, as it demonstrates the last to it of Mercury. According to a report on the Transantiago done by 4 expert and independent engineers, who until today have not been denied (that I at least), the government of Mr. Lagos prioritized the extension of the Meter and the construction of freeways for automobiles, jeopardizing fiscal money by almost 3 billion of US$, leaving to TS without budget, which resulted as well in high overcrowding, stops times of delay, many transfers, slow speeds of displacement and incentive of the use of the car, to name consequences. In short, Mr. Lagos is the intellectual person in charge and the Bachelet president the maximum material person in charge of this setback to have given in its government go to this plan, being able to avoid it the disaster were anticipated, as it noticed the famous report meter to it.
Secondly: east fact recognition of failure - I hope is done, if really is wanted to favor poor men, demonstrate it with the fact to change the system of public transport, that is what they more use. It is not to arrive and to approve an subsidy leaving the things as they are. Real pars are required, and to make the loss of a good time and not to follow long term; the criterion that must prevail for the decision is the probable cost of long term. The solution happens to review the main concept - feeder, to plan the construction of secreted routes, the construction of whereabouts with zones payments and to reevaluar the incentives of effective contracts. Also it happens through a process of detailed engineering for the revision of routes that really serve people, with the participation of specialists, municipalities, Intendance and community.
Third party: there is a point that the gentleman minister must explain: if no longer low the monthly deficit US$ 50 million to the month, would mean an annual deficit of more of US$ 600 million. And the subsidy that is requested is by US$ 345 annual million by 3 years. How they are going to finance the difference? What plan of action has on the matter? How will be executed and will be moderate its result?
I hope that an ample agreement is reached and with height of sights of All the political phantom and to have contributed to its voting with actual arguments. Obvious I do not extend more in honor opportunely.
It salutes to him sincerely,
Eduardo Mittelmann

I believe that the idea is good. She is modern and it elevates standard, but it has one serious deficiency, that I create is the main of the system:
The regularity of the routes is irregular, being able one to be in whereabouts one hour to hope that a micro ones arrives and arrive meetings.
Itself we fixed this problem, without considering budgets and financings, I understand would improve at usuary level the service in 50%. Fodder that this time could look for by means of a protocol the intention to improve this aspect.
In Europe, as you must know, the established whereabouts have the schedules of past of the different lines with their destinies stuck in their murals. Then one I arrive at the paredero, watch its clock and say, have left little. Here in Chile she is not and for this unique reason people only prefer the yellows (confidence).
I do not know if the would fix this simple aspect of commitment of the involved companies of transports. People do not trust the Transantiago and colapsa meters. Instead of being a complement, these two means throw the ball.
Hopefully serves!

The present culture is of the images and not of the ideas. Who they designed and they started the Transantiago more was worried about the modern image that this one would project and not in putting under it the critic of the ideas. Following the model of free market whose image hallucinates to for about thirty years, but seeing that 5000 industralists produced the chaos of the yellow micros, to these they reduced them designers to only ten companies.

The problem is each company a territory was adjudged to him where to operate with exclusive feature, being thus eliminated all competition. The proposals to solve are being canalized it by the side the maquillaje of the image. This is obvious in the Minister of Transports who is not decided in modifying contracts according to a seriously reasoned strategy. Also it is it of the politicians of the Alliance, who are tied to the atavic image of the free market. They propose the maquillaje abrir the exclusive territories to the other operators of the system so that it appears the divine competition.

Although the great chains of the retail, the bank, many companies of production, etc., are almost monopolistic, we cannot remove the image from the head of which a single metropolitan company pertaining to all the santiaguinos, similar to the Meter of Santiago, could be the most effective remedy. The neoliberal ideology is in charge to indoctrinate to us on the image of the evils of the collective companies.

There are premises with little foundation:
Is the Transantiago a system superior to the previous one? I have read a pair of commentaries that affirm this premise without arguing much; an objective analysis would have to compare the following aspects in my opinion: 1) Cover, 2) Security, 3) Cost:
1) Cover: technicians and technicians do not agree that the greater leanness this system is its low cover the must transfer several, to walk but of the advisable thing for children, third age or people that walks with bulks, are sectors and not few that simply do not have cover, not we speak of the weekend where the subject of the cover and frequency critic.
2) Security: the numbers indicate that the accidents are to the 1/2 comparison with the previous system, in addition the robberies practically disappeared thus this seems a strength of the new system, nevertheless although the numbers are clear exists the ambient sensation of which with but transfers that to make by each trip the of accidents is greater, in addition with the bad cover and terrible frequency the crimes of the micros to the whereabouts its neighborhoods despite I recognize that in the security subject it can have some advance with respect to the previous system.
3) Cost: this it is in my opinion weakness but great of the system as country the Transantiago us this costing a platal the users has the congealed tariff but that is something absolutely temporary, it is probable but certainly deseconomias external of the yellow micros in the subjects of security contamination is not a subject nevertheless to quantify when one wants to compare the cost of the yellow Transantiago v/s Micros, the costs country who we have assumed until the moment is brutal the numbers get to give fear, the deficit of the system this today near the 50 million dollars what is a pile of silver, we are optimistic and we think that for the next year the deficit is reduced of 50 to 25 million USD per month this is 300 million USD all this without considering the duplication of costs that do for province.
Lamentably the project of law a new subsidy to the Transantiago does not in a minimum substantial improvement in these three aspects, only requests that we trust one better and we assume the future for a permanent subsidy, objectively this government has not demonstrated that the management is their strength with Cortazar including, seted out has obtained very little and what profit does to an unacceptable cost.
In my opinion if the government wants to insist on that the country is continued bleeding a questioned system it must jeopardize specific way the quality on that it tries to obtain which is not mentioned in the law project that appears the Congress.

Senator Flowers, I am thankful for the opportunity to think in his blog.
It has already been said much on the Transantiago that blush myself to repeat the archirepetido thing, but equal I go here:
The idea to modernize collective transport of surface was good in view of the chaotic system of yellow micros.
But almost everything was made bad, starting off by the that forgot to create incentives for the There is nothing no worse than to not know the human nature.
The implementation of a system badly designed contracts with the operators who consecrated true monopolies. In addition one was divided without having the physical infrastructure nor necessary software.
In order to cover this disaster this the permanent subsidy to the tariff invented now. The subsidies to the prices of goods and services are the worse way to make policy social, creating many you distort and multiple social injustices.
The government has not wanted to do the lost one for extrictamente political reasons.
It is necessary to buy those contracts to him to the operators and to put much to him more competition to the system. More of routes and that the operators by transported passenger and which has paid, that the own operators are in charge to diminish the evasion.
The one of subsidy to the tariff must be replaced by an subsidy to the pedestrians poorer than they need really, paying it to them his subsidy directly in his personal card BIP. But the subject of the transport subsidy must be a subject and a separate and independent law of the subject of the Transantiago.
That is my opinion senator.
Kind Greetings

Respected Senator The TranSantiago is but antidemogratico and the letter with the fundamental principles of the Constitution; all the individuals we are equal.
He is discriminatory when concentrating and to only speak in the people who in Santiago. That it happens with the people who live in Regions and must travel to Stgo., to a hospital, the doctor or simply to visit a relative?
Much people of regions almost for 2 years she has not been traveling Stgo., by not knowing how to take locomotion changed everything.
People majors, handicapped people, children, with some physical or mental problem, are practically crippled, in rush hours to the meter; HE IS UNWORTHY.
THE TRANSANTIAGO THAT IT HAS IMPROVED; FROM VERY BAD THIS IN BAD, the minister takes like parameter icicio from this plan, but he would have to take like reference the system with the yellow micros.
I am of Rancagua and it affects transantiago directly to us; PLEASE NONMAS SILVER, TO US CONTINUES LYING, AND SEGUIRAN, MUST HAVE A REINGENERIA.
JOSE FIGUEROA

Some small considerations on the matter:
1. - The Transantiago fulfilled having fleet control? , IT DID NOT FULFILL.
2. - The Transantiago fulfilled contaminating acoustic less than the yellows as Mr. Lagos promised to it? , IT DID NOT FULFILL.
3. - The Transantiago fulfilled contaminating less with smog than the yellows as also Mr. Lagos promised to it? , IT DID NOT FULFILL.
4. Transantiago eliminated the cause that a micro ones crosses immense sections of distance, as for example from Navia Hill to the as Mr. Lagos promised to it? , IT NOT FULFILL.
5. - The Transantiago fulfilled having drivers correctly uniformed? , IT DID NOT FULFILL.
6. - The Transantiago fulfilled having its perfectly tidy buses and but they would go to them to attend parts for that reason? , IT DID NOT FULFILL.
7. - The Transantiago fulfilled respecting the assigned whereabouts? , IT DID NOT FULFILL.
8. - The Transantiago fulfilled having decent whereabouts for the users? , IT DID NOT FULFILL.
9. - The Transantiago fulfilled having machines without dirty rays and in its outside? , IT DID NOT FULFILL.
10. - The Transantiago fulfilled diminishing the times of delay with respect to the yellows? , IT DID NOT FULFILL.
11. - The Transantiago fulfilled diminishing the times of trip between the office and the home? , IT DID NOT FULFILL.
12. - The Transantiago has fulfilled facilitating displacement by the capital for a tourist or a of regions? , IT DID NOT FULFILL.
13. - The Transantiago fulfilled having absolutely new machines? , IT DID NOT FULFILL.
14. - The Transantiago fulfilled making runners in diverse communes? , IT DID NOT FULFILL.
15. - The Transantiago fulfilled improving the quality of life of the Santiaguinos as Mr. Lagos promised to it? , IT DID NOT FULFILL.
14. - The Transantiago generally fulfilled the citizenship the promise done by Mr. Lagos in the days of presidential campaign? , IT DID NOT FULFILL.
Then humbly would like to ask Mrs. Bachelet Mr. Cortazar and knowing that it is difficult to recognize it, but to the benefit of the country it is obligation to ask it and them to respond it because they do not recognize once and for all in front of all the Chileans who this was a failure?
to recognize this, it would be considered by them to give account of another failure of the projects executed by Mr. Lagos?
because to have to give shameful amounts to subsidize utilities that go to pockets of private? , to subsidize now if with the yellows NEVER it were necessary? , he is allowed to ask to me to me it will be necessary east , or these platas go away to bottoms and to perhaps favor future political campaigns? , he is right to ask it, every time the old system of transports did not need subsidy.
does not create Mr. Cortazar, who is a blackmail indicating that if the project is not approved the locomotion of regions raises? perhaps, the locomotion of regions would have raised its value if east invention of the Agreement of the Transantiago had not existed? , by all means that had not passed anything with the regions.
When one had that the regions received income and because in the capital an evil became project and execution of the same Transantiago call, rather than each region receives EVERYTHING what must receive and a species of COMPENSATION not to have committed terrible errors in the design, implementation and execution of this horrible experience mainly for the poorest people of the capital?
Finally to the gentlemen Senators: They are clean in his form to think, and they do not let themselves take, since the Deputy DC Ascencio did, who according to him, is allowed to favorably a failed project, questioned by the same until the previous day of the voting and everything because he knew that there were certain exemptions for his district. Please gentlemen Senators, you are civil servants of the country and of a district and therefore nonbenefits do not have to vote independently if something is good or bad for the that it has or the locality that gave the vote them in the election.

Senator Flowers,
I do not create right that we continue hurling more silver in transantiago as it is. There is no a plan clear to revert the present situation and it is continued trying to improve what exists only with the aim of which the political cost can be moved in the time.
I agree in only approving platas when a NEW Transantiago appears that really improves the quality which we lived and/or we worked in Stgo. For the new solution they take into account the good things that it has the present implementation (many or few, gives the same) and take advantage of the experience this failure.
but they do not continue hurling the silver, please. Ah and that does not become between 4 walls.
I am thankful for east space to debate.
Friedrich Schoess J.

Lamentably this country lacks few politicians as You whom not infrequently I dealed upeliento, when he was minister. its present professional political performance has taken me to think that she is ideal person to direct the destinies our country; although I recognize that it is too intelligent so that we understand it to the Chileans and can hold that position. Now that gives the opportunity me to think on the money that is to give to him the Transantiago I to him that I do not know even when it is going away to spend money in it. I was two months in Antofagasta, year 2006 and it gave pain me to read in local newspaper that the hospital did not have sufficient surgical supplies, in a Region that is richest our country. Alive in the Region of the Bío Bío of smaller wealth than the named one, but where we paid the most expensive mobilization of Chile: $ 490 pesos by a passage and what it hurts towards the located popular districts in the periphery of the city; accommodated people more than live more to the center can be regodear and be paid to $ 350 because that way all the buses serve. she argues herself that they are going to us to subencionar with $ 30 pesos, that is to say, we were in $ 460 and, as soon as subenciona to the santiaguinos, says that in $ 210 pesos, that is to say, 7 times more and more above frescolines do not pay. Even when the centralism. With all the problems of our araucanos brothers, because not to create of Chillán to the South, the Republic of the Araucanía, can sound sedititious, but hagámonos to respect. And I have that these subenciones are indefinite want, that is to say, it to leave of inheritance for future governments. And what is going to happen when it lowers copper, retires the aid, we go to the real prices and that government pays. I trust that You will know, like senator Regional and because I have understood that it is of Talca, to mainly defend to the Regions to which we could be far better if fueramos a federal country.

In opinion, a weight is not due to give him but the Transantiago, but definitive solutions are offered.
1) Nonuse much the Transantiago, sometimes in hours valley and I have had some problems of delay, that nontapeworm, before used the meter today in a disaster, hediondo, all piled up, removed seats to him, etc.
2) It hurts much to see in the mornings and long afternoons me rows of people hoping by long time the passage of the locomotion.
3) Ofrecio comfort, less time of trip ", and everything was a lie, the micros you inconvenience, go like animal.
4) My parents are majors and no longer they can leave and to visit its children and grandsons, since this system of routes and its great amount of transfers cause that there is a very great they wanted if it to do, must transfer three at least, before do not hacian no.

It would in the first place to him to the people who say that the system is bad, that not cumplio with the fiance', etc. That indeed is right.
But that we are going away to deceive. To or to make a system of new transport like of the yellows, that before were of colors, delays years. If when was small in Renca passed 2 machines to go to the center, I am speaking of the 1976, and just as in years 80 they began to appear routes for all In any case in rush hours always he was In the 90, when vivia in San Pablo, me subia by back so that the machines happened floods and did not pay either and the drivers did not give tickets either. Everything was very bad.
Nowadays that alive in Maipu, I can say to them that the system is better than the previous one, that needs adjustments, clearly, but is better.
Dijamos some contributions of transantiago. Incredible Incuentro the subject of the card, is excellent. The assaults to the people and the drivers are handicapped. Here there are human lives that did not go away, by pesera with silver.
That needs transantiago to do it better, simply 4 things.
1. - cronogram with the companies so that they renew fleet of enchuladas machines. Those give pain
2. - Demand with defined term a software of administration, that makes lack so that the machines do pass all meetings.
3. A cronogram, on the part of you publish and property, for the creation of exclusive runners for the machines. That they loosen the silver that did not loosen before.
4. - If there is silver, to demand the minister that defines new line of the meter to other communes. That is the unique form to improve the connectivity of the meter. Fast meter a:
Quilicura, Melipilla, San Bernando, etc. Places very separated, where locomotion does not exist takes express to you.
Greetings
Alberto Eugene.
that we are not the point, we do not have options to change transantiago, likes or not and we have the obligation to improve it with

He is preferable to destine the money to construct new hospitals.
Like example, in press cost US$ is said that the new Military Hospital 180 million total implementation, being best and the most modern one of Latin America.
With the money already and the futures, podria to be constructed to a hospital of the same quality in house important city.
This would arrive the people. is a broken coat that only arrives at the industralists.
Pepe

It seems to me that it is necessary to do pèrdida one and to reformulate it with the positive of the new system, for example, exclusive card and vìas. And to the market, that is to say, what the user in the feeders needs, at least.

The system can must work well, and for it has been spent million US$ in studies, infrastructure and implementation. electoral appetites of DNN. Ricardo Lagos put everything the other way around. Until a student account could be given of which without necessary the road infaestructura, the minimal conditions for a good operation are not fulfilled. Instead of to start off the streets they started off throwing to run the buses by where they could and by the whereabouts (the images sell and give votes.) The financing must be to the fundamental elements that they give to to the system the rest and the one of the regions pure demagoguery that Mr. Lagos knows so well and with that the political poor woman of this country.

Dear Senador F. Flowers:
If this seems to him a relief, partly it it, before the impotence of a common but thinking a simple doctor, against social policies very mistaken.
I have used Transantiago in the last year and I that the user perceives problems that the politicians and the journalists do not mention:
the 1. many whereabouts; ex.: Military school frequency of line 401-407 has been low; they pass often the small buses nevertheless half-empty line CO2, in the same direction, but they stop to 30 meters in different whereabouts duplicating structures, zones payments and personnel, without the passenger who already is in the first platform can take them; something similar happens in front of the Municipality of Conchalí to the lines 201-202 that go in the same direction but their whereabouts are to 80 meters of distance; these examples multiply by all Santiago, and would be idle to follow, without one can explain intelligence (or the of her) that exists after this planning.
2. very inconvenience for the passenger, who is progressively surpassing the yellow micros: a) the abrupt frenazos and accelerations are b) the shaking of the part later of the buses caterpillars is accentuated and it multiplies in the habitual pockets of our streets until being made point less than unbearable c) the internal noise of the buses is high by multiple parts of the body that are loose and to d) or the buses are often not repaired not pause next to the platform, taking place as dangerous unevenness as it was before e) freely rise to salesmen, singers or almoners (which they would not dare to enter the Meter) doing impossible to take advantage of the time transfer to read, to study, to think, to answer one professional call, to to music that freely we chose. If the radios are prohibited, to single opposition of a passenger in the interurban buses and with suitable reason, because is to accept to these inopportune ones that they invade without authorization the use of our free time?
And by this and for this we must all pay 2 times: once by passage and another one with taxes: more of U$50 million/month, so that the system at least in march?
I will have to use always my car or You Senator, give change hope me?
We are all Condorito: I demand an explanation!
Kindly
Dr. They dwell

By its to do the things either like senator, looking for property of Chile and the Chileans, that it will be difficult to him to make a decision, but without reading the previous commentaries that have been emitted, want to indicate some things to for my and all the people who surround to me are very important:
Transantiago has meant an extraordinary disaster for the majority of the santiaguinos. That there are many has benefitted them, by smaller costs, live in main ways or near them or to travel in car.
But lamentably majority the USERS of public transport, those that we lived populations, are a disaster. I have taken the time to visit tens of populations of the South Area of Santiago, the Pintana, the San Ramon, High Bridge, Florida, San Bernardo, the West, Hill Navia, Fifth Normal Pudahuel, Hillocks, North: Renca, Quilicura, Conchali, Calm, etc. I have done Because it, because pense that in my commune the Forest, was the only one with problems, but is equal in all the peripheral zones of Santiago. Before the majority of the workers of the sector took a single micro, direct one to its destiny. From my sector trips to Hill Navia, Pudahuel, Renca, the Counts, Providence, Vitacura. Without problems, 40, min to one hour of trip, sometimes sleeping. Today we must make 3 transfers, wait for a micro unemployed person, Meter tightened, and later long minutes to hope other micros to arrive at our destinies. To the equal return. time travels total, one hour 20 minutes to one hour 40 min. A disaster, I prefer thousand times to pay 100 or 200 pesos but to travel more comfortable, safe and fast (like it was before). Problems in old system (yellow), clear there were that them, but were the solucionables minuses and easily, even adding the BIP. I create Sir senator, TRANSANTIAGO does not have return already have spent 18 months, without real This system must be finished is a humiliation. Finally if the contracts cannot finish, they had to establish new routes like competition of the present ones, calling to licitation, hopefully with special puntajes to those who to know the needs the santiaguinos that are the old micreros, by something cost I understand that 80 years in being created the previous system that we had, any necessity was quickly cover, even by means of meetings of neighbors and Municipalities, with these old conseguiamos micreros you for our grandpas, for modest people without work that it had to take to some son or relative to medical treatment. Only our neighbor meeting, conseguia 80 you pass free for our people in the Line of Bus San Bernardo who informed according to us in that age (year 2001), granted all the communes of the South sector of Stgo. more than 400 you happen free, and thousands of users even took monthly them by Today that does not happen and sooner or later with or without subdidio the it will also raise because today the present micreros not only have income, but three or four banks, sounds and technological services, falabella, and the foreign operators. Before at least, the micreros, the toads, the candy singers their platita, salesmen and promotions of the day, etc.SEGUIR SUBSIDIZING THIS DISASTER WITH SUCH AMOUNT OF RESOURCES, ARE INCREDIBLE being so many other more urgent needs for the population. This is to give the silver to the and banks because it is not for people. Dear senator You must support the town and reject the project of the Government.

First that everything I must to indicate that not I am user of transantiago alive region (the Night love song), but in my remote trips I have been able to state a significant change in the transfer and time of duration, compared when he was in favor of year 1995-96 making my and he transferred to me from Maipú Departmental to the PUC (Campus San Joaquin), a true martyrdom every day as of going i return.
Secondly, I believe the Chileans of lower middle-class need means worthy, safe transport like and express, and believe that the Transantiago is it.
Third party, I consider that platas does not go away to a barrel, but believe that has been a distribution of very the well diseccionado social cost to the lower middle-class. We think following a worker who mobilizes 6 days to the week in transantiago spends to month approximately $ 20,000, without transantiago this same worker with the present price of the dollar and the cost of petroleum would be spending approximately $ 30,000, that is to say, we are giving the silver him not to the great companies (since it is obvious that they must obtain, if we want a better service this is due to pay) but to the middle-class, to each citizen who must mobilize itself to his work in one two or three daily transfers.
Quarter, all the realised one by the man is perfectible, therefore, it is necessary to look for the way of a Transantiago ago like was thought and with all the virtues that thought.
Fifth and last one, I consider Mr. Flores who is the opportunity to watch the future and not the present (with these conjunctural circumstances like the inflation the price of the dollar and others, that not only lived it, but, our neighbors also), is that You must vindicate yourself with his voters and with the citizens that at some time we thought that it would be a great contribution to the progress of CHILE, is that it must hurl in favor of the of subsidy of the public Transport.
Thanks
Carlos Diaz A.

Honorable senator:
I am an industralist ariqueño, which knows that when one plans bad, he is destined to the failure. For that refeeding is needed the system to improve it, but S.A. end of two periods of evaluation we realize that is a continuous loss, does not have left another solution, that to close that company or to absolutely change the objective.
If objective is to spend all the saved one by the exports of copper we with transantiago, but we are concecuentes with giving a good to the of Santiago with effective transport, we must look for another formula.
When the tree crooked, although we put woods to him to straighten it, will culminate its crooked life.
On the other hand, the argument to give money to subsidize the province transport, not valid because the realities each region tremendously different. our city that we have pure air, it is an excellent exercise to walk. The argument is for gaining votes to a project that began and will end up spending much more of the thing. Furthermore, with all the that are estan giving, at the ex- political detainees, at the disappeared ones, when the commodities arrive at the real value, by the overheating of the emergent of China and India, as we are going to resolve this infinite cost?

Senator Flowers
if I were senator I would do this same one. abrir to a site for q people participates with me or through my
To solve the problem of the Transantiago. easy.
First it would return back to the system of the yellow micros
and after that would return it to implement transantiago, but now in form step by step
it would also authorize resources in gradual form, for concrete projects
projects and expenses published in Internet
for q thus, between all we control
greetings,
:)

Simply, the Transantiago has been a robbery to the contributors of regions, for the following reasons:
- The Government says a weight us for the Transantiago, a weight for regions. This is not since the population of regions is superior to the one of Santiago. Thus, a real proportion would be due to remove.
That is to say, gave more imposing and we received less. It is a murder to regionalisation finally ill to the capital. Zero beneficial one for anybody.
- They say to Us we vote by the money for the Transantiago and amarremoslo with an subsidy for regions. they subsidize 50 pesos to us and to Santiago approx more than 200. Again a robbery.
This does not foment regionalism, increases the concentration Santago, asphyxia to his inhabitants and eliminates possibilities development in other zones. Zero vision.
It has much more, but the wrath already is winning to me. Please, cooperates with the country and not with a Government. Thank you very much Senator to me to have listened.

Good gift Fernando, taste that town has access a legislative authority the Eº, and to be able to raise our complaints and visions of the reality, that we lived day to day. am a apolitical person, if of right tendency, the has to me disappointed, only with saying to him that if gave the possibility me of not voting, not votaria, I am 34 years old, when me inscribi the RE, pense that with my vote podria to change the but I realized that not never since the so corrupt system this, that for that reason the same gives me that this at the top of the country, I only hope it that it well, and that the silver which they rob is not so Good to the grain with transantiago, I am usuary direct of the system, osseous I mobilize myself in if or if, I do not have option, with the system of yellow micros my house podia to mobilize to me to any part of Santiago, tapeworm more than 14 routes, with luck have one hcai the center of Santiago, to take locomotion it walked 2 pictures and only it waited for at the most 10 the passage of a machine, today I must walk in the morning 5 pictures, to hope but of 15 minutes that a machine spends that and that comes with space not to go to me tight like sardine that is the normal thing now, in afternoon, to take a machine (old) line 301, to be able to take it empty, I must walk but of 10 pictures, when arriving destiny to walk 8 pictures to arrive house. Before it took the meter, regularly, today I do not do it because simply it stinks out, with my family we did not leave because simply the system does not accommodate to us, no matter hard we look for the amiable side to him, I have 2 small children of 7 and 3 years, entendera You who to walk with them in arms, are extremely complicated, to walk transferring, and but above when I to go to me behind schedule, 22 hrs more or I cannot because line 301 or happens full or simply she spends every 30 minutes. That is my experience, with this system of filth that created. My opinion with respect to promised, us that early at our houses, I arrive later equal or that before, promised new machines to us, I go away and I come in the enchuladas yellows, and when I must take those from approach, equal is enchuladas, promised decent whereabouts to us, I see not yet promised quality to us of international standard life with the transport system, where this? that I do not see it, nor alive it, they promised to quality of life for the people people to us, from the place where alive, a person in wheelchair is impossible to him to move in micro, since yellow they are enchuladas, and do not have like taking a then chair, of which quality of life speaks to me, please, I create gift Fernando and is the popular feeling that this system this dead, and the government insists raising it not to lose in the ballot boxes, this has been seizure from hairs to all the metropolitan region and the country a swindle, because they must follow to him putting the hand in the pocket all the Chileans, so that they pay by an error of a government? , because to follow to him injecting resources a system, planned evil, badly executed, badly organized? , whatever would last the injected resources? , as as time we will more return to think of the same? , nose how the government dara is counted of this imbecility that became, and that does not benefit to anybody, really it gives me pain all this, because I want a better Chile, Chile with standard of life to level world-wide, I fight on a daily basis for that reason, because I am of the working class that sustains east country, I must myself raise 30 minutes before even to be able to arrive work well, and are times that I cannot do it by this system. If they request my humble opinion to me if I approve the project of resources for transantiago, and the subsidy for the transport of regions? With the hand in the heart and without political colors, my serious vote does not stop transantiago, S.A. subsidy of regions. My foundation: no, because we cannot continue wasting money in which this with cerebral death, please we are to him hciendo electroshock to a dead, and we cannot continue squandering the money of each one of the Chileans, that money whichever hospitals habria financed, whichever schools, whichever houses, etc, etc. and for regions him daria the resources, only because in all this time of transantiago, a weight has not occurred them, and serious a way to compensate and to be equitable in the distribution of resources.
Thanks Don Fernando, by being able to express my opinion to an authority.

I believe that in matters of public policies in general terms these have had a great capacity of resolution and stability, except for difficulty of transantiago, that in my opinion design difficulties, and implementation (operative management) in which the responsibility is of the government and in his operationalisation it is responsibility of private operators (ex. gps even the fleet control).
Secondly, watched from an ample perspective but, I consider that the transport policy I publish of passengers had to be state responsibility, since actually, the state is subsidizing transantiago. Such affirmation is based that it is a fundamental responsibility of the state, is a right that the citizens have to a worthy transport, friendly, comfortable. I believe that Cortazar, with support and political will remove this problem ahead.
Also, I within the framework that it is possible to it, and to locate this problem like a state problem and not to politicize it, than have been the public policies in Chile in completes decade, it would seem to be that everything has been made badly, and is not thus, the clear problem is political (electoral) but we cannot punish to a government by this spot. I believe that there is to watch it with and vision of country and to look for a nonelectioneering solution.
Hector Oyarce

Senator.
Years ago, I resorted to gásfiter so that it repaired a pipe that caused a small filtration the department of down. To two it had removed the bathtub to me, the sink and wc and in the department of down was a cascade. Gásfiter wanted at this point much more that I to repair the flaw and requested time and money to me. I did what anyone had I throw: to dismiss the teacher and to bring somebody competent one who repaired in few hours the damage. The idea was good, but the first person did not know to execute it.
Obvious with transantiago we cannot dismiss the teachers now.
We examine the possibilities:
- There is no subsidy. In this case what. We remained without locomotion?
- There is subsidy. We remained with locomotion and we hoped. Until when. Until he appears the competent teacher that it fixes the illegal one.
Senator, votes in favor of the subsidy and uses his influence so that the voters we are not mistaken again in the next election choosing to incompetent people.
Thanks

The Colombians, (SUBUS, EXPRESS OF SANTIAGO AND ALSACE) 4 main ones, bought new buses in bought lands and they installed deposits and terminals are paying and them SUBSIDIES Chileans. All the subsidies that have been approved 290 million 2007 dollars, the pesos of last year ends, loan of the Meter, loan of the Bank Been, loan of the I.A.D.B.) and the million dollars that now are requested, are for paying those buses that already are almost five years old and they are being destartalando, lands and loans of operators and Banks.and the users, we must continue undergoing this humiliation of the Transantiago, and the users of German Villa to Valparaiso (distance similar to a main route of Huechuraba to San must continue paying tariffs of $ 710. -, pardon. with the project they lower $ to him 30. - it would in $ 680. - at least a pair of months, because with the fuel rise it would continue raising. And the central bank is going to continue buying dollars that it continues raising, and with that it raises the fuel, and the inflation generally? We finish with the scandal, Mr. Senador, pongase the trousers since the President does of the Senate Mr. Adolph Zaldivar. It rejects east project please and finish with Transantiago, or they exigan at least that one improves in a 1000%. and to Regions it is necessary to help them and to approve it in separated project.they have situations different from Santiago and must see each region in particular, as they are his needs of effective transport and to a reasonable price.
Thanks senator to give them the opportunity to relieve a little to us .....

If You are ill of the liver, and must be operated urgently, under no circumstance aprovecharia You the occasion, simultaneously to conduct an operation of each hand, each knee, each each feet, each eye, etc.
That is to say, impossible to concentrate the energy in solving the critical problem, if we disintegrated simultaneously it we at the same time diluted, it in many additional operations.
That is unthinkable in the nature, the human body, and any nature, is wanted to do with the social body of Chile.
It is a sovereign stupidity tie the solution to the TRansantiago with the transport in all the regions. Since it is offered to take part the transport everywhere, one is away to commit the same error that in Santiago. A theoretical plan began, endorsed only money, but without a real design of the solutions.
It has passed year and a half and there is still no adjustment. I am much that with this solution to buy votes of the honorable Senators and Deputies being offered to him but silver for its regions in subjects related to the transport, simply it is going to create a Transchile. is the worse thing than it can have. Digamoslo clearly, does not exist any real design of transport in regions that implies to contribute money already now.
As it demonstrates the city to it Santiago, to offer solutions to the without studies and active participation of all the involved actors, is a serious error. Doubt does not fit to me if it is approved the bottoms for the Transantiago as well as is the project and as well as the transport of the regions is found, we are to initiate a disastrous way in tranporte regional.
Perhaps it is not sufficient with the disaster of Santiago?
It requests regional studies that indicate that to subsidize and to take part improvement the transport service in regions.
I assure to him that they do not exist or they are created between roosters and midnight by TECHNOCRATS Transantiago type, which going to damage the people of Regions.
My kind greetings Senator.

The memory for many is fragile and it does not allow to take distance from a process, jucio fast in or black.
1ºHa improved in something the quality of life of the users?
2ºSe can state long tails of people hoping to be able to be transported?
3ºHa handicapped the use of automobiles, creating a migration to the service public?
4ºPor what the State must the public transport through the delivery of resources and more above is pleased to travel in. That we know in the old system the State did not place nor a weight.
5ºPor what the days Saturdays transantiago is a wonder?
6ºMe I ask if there is political and technical will to provide a solution to this Fransfeistein that we have created?

good, is possible to say that I am 20 years old and I want that it sees my point of view.
I do not believe that it must vote to favor, or is a coat bottomless, furthermore as they said or it estan jeopardizing the money of regions with the one of Santiago, something that this bad one.
obvious they must follow the good things of transantiago, like the bip, of step caused that the drivers did not watch you ugly being student, but deberian return the old routes, when they speak that they improve the routes and all that in this way the centric communes only siñen themselves to that rule or who but they are seen, in the case of my commune (the meadow) everything follows bad, there is practically no micro ones that leaves past you of the grates from the center, they leave or you in the grates or san and at night to take micro ones from approach is very difficult.
the other day law to gentleman marinaki? that he was of the old micros and that never the state habia given a weight tranposte I publish (micros) and which always they are habian sustained single. proponia to maintain the card as I said also it and that they returned the routes.
creame that to walk in meter all plenty is not a grace.
I do not understand the government wants to follow with whom he that this bad one, by his obtinacion and not to only want to recognize to its maintains it error.
beforehand thanks to read and to take in whatever people, now with the Web 2,0 all the politicians deberian to follow their example and to see that loves and really it thinks people.

Dear Fernando:
My opinion is endorsed by the knowledge and experience that means to be a daily user of the Transantiago. I have seen evident improvements from the initial disaster but naturally they lack very aspects so that it is transformed into a system of reliable and useful transport.
One of aspects to improve is the one of the frequency of the buses in hour peak. It has been on to hope to me by but of half an hour in some cases and next of seeing almost arrive 2 buses at the same time as the whereabouts. This improvement with a good system of fleet management and with fines to the oparadores that do not fulfill contracts. I believe that the contracts determine a frequency of 1 bus every 10 minutes to peak.
Another aspect is the one of the infrastructure in whereabouts and exclusive ways. Many whereabouts without protection for the rain and with a delay of 30 minutes exist it imaginese.
Also, diminish times of trip it is fundamental that the exclusive ways are implemented that suponia comtemplaba the design and the new ones that deserves the use experience.
Finally, evasion is significant and it requires a system of control and fines that discourage this conduct.
My position is vote favorably but to condition to concrete improvements in the before mentioned, with explicit terms and auditiría external to measure its results.
Greetings,
Hernan Gianini Vivado
Industrial engineer

1 I to You Senator to Him who does not give his approval to the law project because:
< the result of transantiago a meditation a vote of all the inhabitant of the Metropolitan area thing that requires a term counted noninferior to 4 months from the proposal.
< Requiere a technical that determines that it starts off be private and that starts off will be of the State
< a characterization the quality of the buses, or the trolley poles, or the Trams.
< Requiere of rules of financimiento
< Requiere of the designation of a Managing group of the subject that has joint members that represent the State and the prevailed ones and in that the president are chosen in popular voting and have the to dissolve the ties
2 By the previous thing I suggest him, rechaze the financing law, that separates the of the one of Regions, that the Government suggests who within his legal faculties finances of another form the TRANSANTIAGO and that the GOVERNMENT AND the POLITICIANS decide that within months they tendran a definitive solution, that to that proposes it solution to the populations of the Metropolitan Region and that solution is it jeopardize by all to being voted and being approved in the Parliament and to grant the financimiento and the sponsorship to him on the part of the Executive authority.